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Pakistani objection to US drones puts ‘nations at war’, says Democrat

June 29th, 2012 | by | Published in All Stories, Bureau Stories, Covert Drone War, Drone War  |  6 Comments

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Dennis Kucinich in Beirut in 2006

Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich: ‘This is vigilantism conducted by robots’

President Obama’s continued bombing of Pakistan, despite Islamabad’s repeated calls for the CIA to halt its attacks, means the two nations may technically be at war, says a US Congressman.

Dennis Kucinich, who has represented Ohio since 1996, described the US covert drone programme as ‘vigilantism conducted by robots’.

In an interview with the Bureau, Democrat Kucinich voices withering criticism of US clandestine operations in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia, saying that America has found itself ‘running a killing bureaucracy’.

Kucinich told the Bureau that he believed the US may in effect be at war with Pakistan, given that its ‘ally’ has demanded that drone strikes on its territory stop.

In recent months Pakistan has loudly protested each drone strike, calling them a ‘total contravention of international law’ which are a ‘violation of its territorial integrity and sovereignty.’

Kucinich believes that Islamabad’s recent opposition to the strikes marks a new and worrying chapter in US-Pakistani relations.

‘If a nation, which at one time asked for our help, resents our help, then any action that takes place effectively loses the protection of the request for cooperation. And then it becomes a clearly outlined act of aggression. And so, if it is as Pakistan says it is, and if in fact Pakistan has made this request and asked us to stop and we continue this bombing, then we are at war with Pakistan,’ Kucinich told the Bureau.

Pakistan has always denied claims that secret agreements with the US allow Washington to conduct attacks on its soil.

‘Assassination programmes’
The 66-year old Ohio Congressman, who steps down this November, is a long-time critic of US militarism. He condemned the covert use of drones, describing them as incendiaries ‘that spreads war more broadly and incite more people to join the cause of those who protest the US policies and who seeks to commit violence.’

He added: ‘When you have assassination programmes that lack any attempt to establish legal justification, then you have journeyed into moral depravity. International law means nothing, laws of war mean nothing.’


In his own words: Kucinich blasts US drone policy on YouTube this week.

‘You are looking here at an executive power that is unleashed,’ continued Kucinich. He believes the White House has bypassed America’s ‘highly structured’ system of justice to the point where it is not dispensing justice at all. ‘If you have only an executioner that is not justice, that is something else,’ he said. ‘Because the emphasis is on killing, this is murder.’

When you have assassination programmes that lack any attempt to establish legal justification, then you have journeyed into moral depravity.’
US Congressman Dennis Kucinich

Lamenting the lack of transparency and oversight of the drone programme, the Congressman fears the US is stuck in an endless cycle of violence. Kucinich sees the criteria of what constitutes a legitimate drone target ‘just gets looser and looser,’ referring to the fact that the CIA considers all adult males in a strike zone as militants.

The power to declare global war’
The US Constitution gives Congress the power to choose what country to declare war on, asserts Kucinich. But since the September 11 attacks ‘declarations of war have basically vanished, replaced by an administration’s assertion of the power to declare a global war.’

‘Under the Obama administration it is the derogation to the executive of the power to strike at any nation at any time for any reason,’ he continues. In response he is planning to bring a resolution before Congress that will return martial powers to the legislature. ‘What I am trying to bring about in the Congress is to force accountability and transparency.’

In Kucinich’s view the US is also at war in Yemen, where US drones, combat aircraft and warships are currently fighting – all ‘covertly’.

‘We do not need to go through an Orwellian exercise of semantics or the twisting of meaning here,’ said Kucinich. ‘We understand that we are at war in Yemen.’

He hopes to force the Obama administration to formally seek a declaration of war from Congress.

Earlier this week, former US President and fellow Democrat Jimmy Carter also made an outspoken attack on Obama’s counter-terrorism policy. In a New York Times article, Carter said of the covert drone strikes ‘We don’t know how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed in these attacks, each one approved by the highest authorities in Washington. This would have been unthinkable in previous times.’

Saying that the United States had lost the right to speak with moral authority on foreign affairs, Carter urged Washington ‘to reverse course and regain moral leadership according to international human rights norms that we had officially adopted as our own and cherished throughout the years.’

Read our full interview with Congressman Dennis Kucinich

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Responses

  1. adrian says:

    June 29th, 2012 at 10:02 pm (#)

    It appears the technology (drones) are having a huge impact on their targets it was only last night I watched on pay tv a segment on drones and their capabilities. The operators are 100 miles away it’s like a video game, it’s no longer hand to hand, the US have the advantage and are using it….

  2. Peter R Fowler says:

    June 30th, 2012 at 3:38 pm (#)

    Apart from the brave Chris Woods this is the best intellectual attack on this Human Rights Criminal Atrocity yet: Dennis Kucinich “described the US covert drone programme as ‘vigilantism conducted by robots’

  3. Carlos says:

    July 1st, 2012 at 2:41 pm (#)

    This is not a ‘war on terror’, nor has it ever been. This has always been a war of terror, by the single biggest terrorist organisation in the world, the good ole US of A.
    Nothing short of destruction of the ruling elite will stop this, history says so.

  4. Chimera says:

    July 2nd, 2012 at 9:34 pm (#)

    “Pakistan has always denied claims that secret agreements with the US allow Washington to conduct attacks on its soil.”

    If such an agreement existed some “unnamed govt or intelligence source” would have leaked it by now to back up the claim – ‘cos it would put the US on the side of the angels. So…. No such treaty exists.

  5. Boyzie says:

    July 3rd, 2012 at 5:37 pm (#)

    The policies of extinction and domination that leads to murder and enslavement of millions of all Native Americans, and citizens worldwide still prevail today. I don’t think people would ever understand what’s really happening in the world today when it comes to provocation, extremist, war terrorism and drones slaughter. The war on terror has become so overblown that is about time Washington tell the world of Al Qaeda’s role in their own country, not one of these unscrupulous politicians in the US has openly talked about the killings and the answer to homelessness in Pakistan and those affected through drone slaughter. Washington makes its own laws home and in another man’s soil, no one so far has been issued warrants, charged, damaging American Property or even braking the law, is time the world see some hard proof from a country that believes in due process and democracy, instead of indiscriminate killing

  6. monalisa says:

    July 4th, 2012 at 6:44 am (#)

    I wonder: who is really behind the US politics of war.
    And if any US president isn’t merely a puppet of another US-military organisation !

    It maybe started when the Berlin Wall fell and the former Communist Soviet Union fell apart too.

    According to several articles in the New York Times from February and March 1992 (initiated by a whistleblower) the Pentagon envisioned military world dominance by USA.

    Following US politics since then – as to my non-political knowledge:

    “helping” Kuwait against Saddam Hussein and implementing warheads with DU-material;

    the former Yougoslav-NATO-intervention initiated and lead by USA and again using DU-spiced warheads;

    the case with 9/11 (a very dubious act and far too quick with political accusations !!) and the invasion of Afghanistan, again DU-spiced warheads;

    and with it too the Pakistan envisaged …

    the start with drone-warfare …..

    the Libyian case again NATO …

    the drone-warfare extensions to more countries ….

    inbetween carbombs and murders initiated and partly carried out by CIA …

    I wonder for how long this will go on !

    Thank you all for your researches at the bureauinvestigates !

    monalisa

Casualty Estimates

CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2013

Total US strikes: 368
Obama strikes: 316
Total reported killed: 2,541-3,533
Civilians reported killed: 411-884
Children reported killed: 168-197
Total reported injured: 1,173-1,472

US Covert Action in Yemen 2002–2013

Confirmed US drone strikes: 45-55

Total reported killed: 236-340
Civilians reported killed: 14-49
Children reported killed: 2
Reported injured: 62-144

Possible extra US drone strikes: 77-95

Total reported killed: 273-438
Civilians reported killed: 25-48
Children reported killed: 9-10
Reported injured: 76-98

All other US covert operations: 12-76

Total reported killed: 148-366
Civilians reported killed: 60-87
Children reported killed: 25
Reported injured: 22-111

US Covert Action in Somalia 2007–2013

US drone strikes: 3-9

Total reported killed: 7-27
Civilians reported killed: 0-15
Children reported killed: 0
Reported injured: 2-24

All other US covert operations: 7-14

Total reported killed: 47-143
Civilians reported killed: 7-42
Children reported killed: 1-3
Reported injured: 12-20

The Data

Covert Drone War - the Data
The databases of all known secret war strikes in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

Methodology

The methodology behind the research on US drone attacks.

Drone Infographics

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Bureau Visualisations - Emma Slater

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Pakistan drone statistics visualised
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Graph - Joakim Sorthe

Graphs of the Bureau's strike tally and casualty estimates from Pakistan.

Interactive timeline of all recorded CIA drone strikes
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Timeglider tall image

An interactive timeline of drone strikes in Pakistan between 2004 and the present date.

Interactive map
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Globe - Flickr / joelthomas

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